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Tom
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 Posted - 11/06/2009 : 06:25:35 AM
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See none of the righties on here talking about the shootings at Ft Hood.
Non military issued automatic hand guns killing 13 people. Yep no need for gun control.
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r3020
3877 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 07:22:14 AM
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What we need is law banning muslim
"You can have guaranteed peace in a second.....surrender"-Ronald Reagan |
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Mr. Snerdly
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 07:24:51 AM
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[i]Originally posted by Tom[/i]
[br]See none of the righties on here talking about the shootings at Ft Hood.
Non military issued automatic hand guns killing 13 people. Yep no need for gun control.
We don't need gun control, we need Muslim control.
"I only take half a pill"--Murvel "Mumbles" Fentress
"If it ain't off mor'n a half inch, it's close enough."--Mike Cacak
"I hate George Bush almost as much as I love Jesus."--Bo Snerdly
"I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies"--Butterfly McQueen
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Beaner
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 07:38:44 AM
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The question that need to be addressed is why did the military not deal with this guy before this happened. he was known by his co-workers and an outspoken opponent of the U.S. military being in Iraq. He was reported by collegues to superiors and even was investigated by FBI. Yet, he was promoted from captain to major this year. Was he not kicked out of the military because he was a Muslim and people feared beiong condemn for being anti-Muslim?
Why did this Muslim Major who is a doctor fear having to shoot a fellow Muslim in Iraq? Doctors are not put in situations where they have to shooot people. Besides American forces are not shooting anyone right now in Iraq.
What hwe have here is a Muslim born in the USA who has greater loyalty to fellow Muslims half a world away than he does to the country where he was born. Muslims did not pay for his undergraduate education or send him through medical school. That was done by U.S. taxpayers.
As for the guns we do not know anything yet about where he got them. And the situation may have turned out a lot better if the other soldiers had been armed as well.
 "I bow to conservative economic policies"
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Riceman
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 08:26:05 AM
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| Typical liberal. What a callous and cheap response Tom. The only thing you can come up with is to post an agenda "hot button"? If guns were illegal, this muslim piece of $h!t would have found one on the black market. Someone who is on a suicide mission doesnt give a damn if they have cleared their permit paperwork. I for one am glad that they got this guy alive. I wonder how long your false messiah is going to ponder whether he needs to be harsly interrogated? Cast a wide net, ask many questions and never let them see the light of day again. Unless, they are staked down to an ant hill and watching vultures circling above. Sell tickets for it and donate to the victims families. |
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4450
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 08:29:34 AM
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Tom, the issue is not the gun, it's the man. You post talked about the "righties" on here. Well then my response would be your blaming the gun is typical "leftie".
What about the Iraqi guy I saw on the news last night that ran his own daughter down with the car because she was becoming too westernized. Shall we outlaw cars while we're at it.
And how about the guy that got stabbed at a bar here in our state over the weekend. Should we outlaw knives. And bars. And booze.
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Kansascowman
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 08:47:25 AM
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| You can take heart Tom that undoubtedly with the left in control, this will be the perfect jumping off point for a campaign for stricter gun control. Really though, he was in the military, do you believe had he had absolutely no access to a civilian gun he wouldn't have been able to get a military weapon? People who want to kill large numbers of people will always find a way, if not guns maybe car bombs, truthfully I am surprised we haven't seen those here already. Looks to me like the religion of peace has struck again. |
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taxpayer
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 08:56:43 AM
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| I agree with KCM. Whule there are several mass killings that are "ammunition" for gun control nuts, I don't think this one holds any merit. I hope no one advocates a military with no guns. |
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glowplug
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 08:56:51 AM
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The woman security guard that brought the shooter down had been wounded herself first.
She shot 4 times and HIT Major Raghead 4 times.
4 out of 4. Now that is gun control!
Glowplug
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Beaner
2790 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 09:00:08 AM
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Based on what is known thus far it would appear that sole motivator for the killer's actions at Ft. Hood was his being a Muslim. Even though he was born in the U.S. he told the 7-11 clerk in Killeen that he was Jordanian and that he went to the mosque every Friday to pray. He was dressed in the 7-11 in traditional Middle East garb including a galabea and skull cap. There were dozens of ways this fellow could have dealt with his problems of being a Muslim member of the U.S. Army other than killing his comrades. He could have sought conscientious objector status or he could simply have refused to go to Iraq, beedn court matialed, and suffered the consequences. Instead he chose to kill his comrades. So much for the religion of peace.
"I bow to conservative economic policies"
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glowplug
2219 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 09:14:08 AM
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Well Beaner,
If Major raghead had chosen to go the c-o route, court marshal, etc. , he wouldn't have had his 72 virgin deal because his religion-cult calls on him to die for Allah.
Like the roadrunner, his plans blew up because he's alive. Televise his day in court, televise his death by firing squad (show the bullets being dipped in bacon grease) and televise his burial with a piglet in his coffin.
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glowplug
2219 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 09:26:49 AM
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I had wondered how this raghead could shoot so many with just two pistols. The story below explains it, and confirms that this crime was all about Islam.
Glowplug
By JEFF CARLTON, Associated Press Writer Jeff Carlton, Associated Press Writer – 59 mins ago
FORT HOOD, Texas – Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.
Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.
An imam from a mosque Hasan regularly attended said Hasan, a lifelong Muslim, was a committed soldier, gave no sign of extremist beliefs and regularly wore his uniform at prayers.
Cone said Hasan was hospitalized in stable condition and that investigators hope to interrogate him as soon as possible. In the early chaos after the shootings, authorities believed they had killed him, only to discover later that he had survived.
Cone said Hasan was not known to be a threat or risk. He acknowledged that it was "counterintuitive" that a single shooter could kill and injure so many people. But he said the massacre occurred in "close quarters."
"With ricochet fire, he was able to injure that number of people," Cone said. Authorities are investigating whether Hasan's weapons were properly registered with the military.
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glowplug
2219 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 09:44:49 AM
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Tom, you started this thread with a gun control slant.
We don't have a gun problem. We have a jihad problem.
Glowplug
The following from Michelle Malkin's blog chronicles the various crimes committed by Muslims with Sudden Jihad Syndrome:
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The Christian Science Monitor profiles Nidal Malik Hasan, the Muslim soldier identified by the military as the shooter:
Terry Lee, a retired Army colonel who knew Hasan, told Fox News about a story he heard secondhand. He said a fellow colleague had told him that Hasan had made “outlandish comments” about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and US involvement in them and that “Muslims had a right to rise up and attack Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
“[He] made comments about how we shouldn’t be over there – you need to lock it up, Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor,” Lee added.
But the suspect’s cousin, Nader Hasan, gave Fox News a different picture. He said his cousin had never deployed but was affected by the war and had been concerned about his impending deployment.
“He would tell us how he would hear things, horrific things, things from war probably affecting him psychologically,” Nader Hasan said.
From AP:
His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars. He required counseling as a medical student because of problems with patients.
There are many unknowns about Nidal Malik Hasan, the man authorities say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base. Most of all, his motive. But details of his life and mindset, emerging from official sources and personal acquaintances, are troubling.
“Troubling.” And familiar.
At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.
Here’s the Scribd comment of Nidal Hasan:
There was a grenade thrown amongs a group of American soldiers. One of the soldiers, feeling that it was to late for everyone to flee jumped on the grave with the intention of saving his comrades. Indeed he saved them. He inentionally took his life (suicide) for a noble cause i.e. saving the lives of his soldier. To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause. Scholars have paralled this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers. If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. Their intention is not to die because of some despair. The same can be said for the Kamikazees in Japan. They died (via crashing their planes into ships) to kill the enemies for the homeland. You can call them crazy i you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam. So the scholars main point is that “IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOUR INTENTION IS THE MAIN ISSUE” and Allah (SWT) knows best.
Those of you with long memories will remember all those who came before Hasan. Here is my column from March 2003 on Muslim soldiers with attitude:
Sgt. Asan Akbar, a Muslim American soldier with the 326th Engineer Battalion, had an “attitude problem.”
According to his superiors and acquaintances, Akbar’s attitude was bitterly anti-American and staunchly pro-Muslim. So how did this devout follower of the so-called Religion of Peace work out his attitudinal problems last weekend?
By lobbing hand grenades and aiming his M-4 automatic rifle into three tents filled with sleeping commanding officers at the 101st Airborne Division’s 1st Brigade operations center in Kuwait.
Akbar is the lone suspect being detained in the despicable attack, which left more than a dozen wounded and one dead. Surviving soldiers say Akbar, found cowering in a bunker with shrapnel injuries, was overheard ranting after the assault: “You guys are coming into our countries, and you’re going to rape our women and kill our children.”
“Our”? At least there’s no doubt about where this Religion of Peace practitioner’s true loyalties lie.
Naturally, apologists for Islam-gone-awry are hard at work dismissing this traitorous act of murder as an “isolated, individual act and not an expression of faith.” But such sentiments are willfully blind and recklessly p.c.
Sgt. Akbar is not the only MSWA — Muslim soldier with attitude — suspected of infiltrating our military, endangering our troops and undermining national security:
– Ali A. Mohamed. Mohamed, a major in the Egyptian army, immigrated to the U.S. in 1986 and joined the U.S. Army while a resident alien. This despite being on a State Department terrorist watch list before securing his visa. An avowed Islamist, he taught classes on Muslim culture to U.S. Special Forces at Fort Bragg, N.C., and obtained classified military documents. He was granted U.S. citizenship over the objections of the CIA.
A former classmate, Jason T. Fogg, recalled that Mohamed was openly critical of the American military. “To be in the U.S. military and have so much hate toward the U.S. was odd. He never referred to America as his country.”
Soon after he was honorably discharged from the Army in 1989, Mohamed hooked up with Osama bin Laden as an escort, trainer, bagman and messenger. Mohamed used his U.S. passport to conduct surveillance at the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi; he later pled guilty to conspiring with bin Laden to “attack any Western target in the Middle East” and admitted his role in the 1998 African embassy bombings that killed more than 200 people, including a dozen Americans.
Ain’t multiculturalism grand?
– Semi Osman. An ethnic Lebanese born in Sierra Leone and a Seattle-based Muslim cleric, Osman served in a naval reserve fueling unit based in Tacoma, Wash. He had access to fuel trucks similar to the type used by al Qaeda in the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers, which killed 19 U.S. airmen and wounded nearly 400 other Americans.
Osman was arrested last May as part of a federal investigation into the establishment of a terrorist training camp in Bly, Oregon. Osman recently pleaded guilty to a weapons violation, and the feds dropped immigration charges against him in exchange for his testimony.
Ain’t open borders grand?
– John Muhammad. The accused Beltway sniper and Muslim convert was a member of the Army’s 84th Engineering Company. In an eerie parallel to the Akbar case, Muhammad is suspected of throwing a thermite grenade into a tent housing 16 of his fellow soldiers as they slept before the ground-attack phase of Gulf War I in 1991. Muhammad’s superior, Sgt. Kip Berentson, told both Newsweek and The Seattle Times that he immediately suspected Muhammad, who was “trouble from day one.”
Curiously, Muhammad was admitted to the Army despite being earlier court-martialed for willfully disobeying orders, striking another noncommissioned officer, wrongfully taking property, and being absent without leave while serving in the Louisiana National Guard.
Although Muhammad was led away in handcuffs and transferred to another company pending charges for the grenade attack, an indictment never materialized. Muhammad was honorably discharged from the Army in 1994. Eight years later, he was arrested in the 21-day Beltway shooting spree that left 10 dead and three wounded.
Ain’t tolerance grand?
– Jeffrey Leon Battle. A former Army reservist, Battle was indicted in October 2002 for conspiring to levy war against the United States and “enlisting in the Reserves to receive military training to use against America.” According to the Justice Department, he planned to wage war against American soldiers in Afghanistan.
Ain’t diversity grand?
“It’s bad enough we have to worry about enemy forces, but now we have to worry about our own guys,” Spc. Autumn Simmer told the Los Angeles Times this week after the assault on the 101st Airborne. The Islamist infiltration of our troops is scandalous. Not one more American, soldier or civilian, must be sacrificed at the altar of multiculturalism, diversity, open borders, and tolerance of the murderous “attitude” of Jihad.
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studman
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 10:40:06 AM
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Screw the gun control Put this guy in the position he wants to go out. Chain him up naked in a site whereby real Americans can stone him in a true Muslim punishment on a day to day basis. Muslims can read our intent and position on this matter!
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commie bedwetter
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 12:47:31 PM
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England has very strict gun laws, and hardly anyone ever gets shot over there. They also have a lot more Muslims than we do living there, and they are much more vocal and militant there than here.
Still, a shooting is a rare occurrence in that nation. End of argument!
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Kansascowman
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 1:31:22 PM
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That is true commie, every word of it. But, they have lots of lesser crimes that we probably wouldn't have here because the perps would be scared of getting shot. I am not sure what that statement proves, other than to point out that England is no crime free paradise, the criminals simply can get away with more without carrying guns, there is alot of press given to knife crimes, which kind of proves the point bad guys will be bad guys whether they have guns or not. I am sure the left wingers on here will laugh at this, but what would bother me if I were a Brit was when the Muslims over there finally do decide to take over, the population will not have any way to defend themselves. I am not sure what kind of gun control you are advocating, but I hate to see law abiding citizens have their guns taken from them. NO handguns allowed at all in the UK, you can get a shotgun but you have to have a permit.
When you think about it, it makes just as much sense to ban all Muslims from this country, again you can call me a racist, but I think I would prefer that. |
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